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		<title>By: Odin/Velmont</title>
		<link>http://kitsunenoir.com/2007/12/03/treenorah/comment-page-1/#comment-18910</link>
		<dc:creator>Odin/Velmont</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Dec 2007 18:16:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please, do call it Â«YouleÂ», Â«YuleÂ», Â«JolÂ», Â­Â«JulÂ» or whatever if you want to take the christ out.

Her i Norway Â«christmasÂ» is still called Â«JolÂ» from old times. I don&#039;t like people calling Jol an christian holiday. It&#039;s not. It&#039;s part of our culture and was tried loaded with christian content in order to make the people embrace christianity. But I&#039;m glad it&#039;s still more of a feast (and part of culture) and less of a religious thing; that&#039;s how it should be.

In Harry Potter they called the christmas ball, Â«the yule ballÂ». So there should be no problem using it in english! :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please, do call it Â«YouleÂ», Â«YuleÂ», Â«JolÂ», Â­Â«JulÂ» or whatever if you want to take the christ out.</p>
<p>Her i Norway Â«christmasÂ» is still called Â«JolÂ» from old times. I don&#8217;t like people calling Jol an christian holiday. It&#8217;s not. It&#8217;s part of our culture and was tried loaded with christian content in order to make the people embrace christianity. But I&#8217;m glad it&#8217;s still more of a feast (and part of culture) and less of a religious thing; that&#8217;s how it should be.</p>
<p>In Harry Potter they called the christmas ball, Â«the yule ballÂ». So there should be no problem using it in english! :D</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://kitsunenoir.com/2007/12/03/treenorah/comment-page-1/#comment-18888</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Dec 2007 02:48:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Are you saying that christmas is a religious holiday.  We always celebrate it as one of the Secular Candy Holidays, along with Halloween, Valentines day  and the sunday following the  full moon after the vernal equinox.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are you saying that christmas is a religious holiday.  We always celebrate it as one of the Secular Candy Holidays, along with Halloween, Valentines day  and the sunday following the  full moon after the vernal equinox.</p>
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		<title>By: Bobby S.</title>
		<link>http://kitsunenoir.com/2007/12/03/treenorah/comment-page-1/#comment-18850</link>
		<dc:creator>Bobby S.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Dec 2007 02:15:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You guys take me WAY to literally with this X thing. Watch Futurama and stop speaking Greek at me!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You guys take me WAY to literally with this X thing. Watch Futurama and stop speaking Greek at me!</p>
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		<title>By: ben</title>
		<link>http://kitsunenoir.com/2007/12/03/treenorah/comment-page-1/#comment-18848</link>
		<dc:creator>ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Dec 2007 02:03:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>X is not first letter in greek word for christmas but for Christ as in the Messiah.  &quot; XPIETOE &quot;

Also, the chi-rho, (P with an X on the stem) is an abbreviated form of the latter (the first two letters).

So, in reference to your remark about your usage of the X, please consider the origins.  

And finally, I don&#039;t think you should be worried about being mistaken for or celebrating with a Christian.  There isn&#039;t much that is Christian about Christmas.  There is no Christ to be taken out of it, He is not there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>X is not first letter in greek word for christmas but for Christ as in the Messiah.  &#8221; XPIETOE &#8221;</p>
<p>Also, the chi-rho, (P with an X on the stem) is an abbreviated form of the latter (the first two letters).</p>
<p>So, in reference to your remark about your usage of the X, please consider the origins.  </p>
<p>And finally, I don&#8217;t think you should be worried about being mistaken for or celebrating with a Christian.  There isn&#8217;t much that is Christian about Christmas.  There is no Christ to be taken out of it, He is not there.</p>
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		<title>By: Camille</title>
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		<dc:creator>Camille</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Dec 2007 18:29:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If my grandmother were here, she would slap your fingers with a ruler (or some other mildly violent disciplinary act) and tell you that this Menorah is CLEARLY not kosher for Hannukah because the candles should all be on the same level except for the Shammash.

But she isn&#039;t here, and so I say AWESOME!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If my grandmother were here, she would slap your fingers with a ruler (or some other mildly violent disciplinary act) and tell you that this Menorah is CLEARLY not kosher for Hannukah because the candles should all be on the same level except for the Shammash.</p>
<p>But she isn&#8217;t here, and so I say AWESOME!</p>
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		<title>By: Jess</title>
		<link>http://kitsunenoir.com/2007/12/03/treenorah/comment-page-1/#comment-18734</link>
		<dc:creator>Jess</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2007 15:21:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(and the article&#039;s not actually ridiculous. I kinda liked it. He talks about how Christmas was never really about all that Christian fanatic stuff and more about enjoying each other, etc., and people should stop bitching about how it used to be so much better. OK I&#039;M DONE COMMENTING ON BOBBY&#039;S BLOG SORRYYYY FOR THE CONFUSION)

(TO RECAP: I&#039;M NOT A BITCH)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(and the article&#8217;s not actually ridiculous. I kinda liked it. He talks about how Christmas was never really about all that Christian fanatic stuff and more about enjoying each other, etc., and people should stop bitching about how it used to be so much better. OK I&#8217;M DONE COMMENTING ON BOBBY&#8217;S BLOG SORRYYYY FOR THE CONFUSION)</p>
<p>(TO RECAP: I&#8217;M NOT A BITCH)</p>
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		<title>By: Jess</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jess</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2007 15:19:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OMGG I&#039;M NOT A BITCH REALLY I DIDN&#039;T WRITE IT I SWEAR
hahahahhaah</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OMGG I&#8217;M NOT A BITCH REALLY I DIDN&#8217;T WRITE IT I SWEAR<br />
hahahahhaah</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
		<link>http://kitsunenoir.com/2007/12/03/treenorah/comment-page-1/#comment-18731</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2007 14:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i would like to point out that jess was not being a bitch...that&#039;s a link to an article that she thought was ridiculous.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i would like to point out that jess was not being a bitch&#8230;that&#8217;s a link to an article that she thought was ridiculous.</p>
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		<title>By: Bobby S.</title>
		<link>http://kitsunenoir.com/2007/12/03/treenorah/comment-page-1/#comment-18643</link>
		<dc:creator>Bobby S.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2007 19:57:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My X stands for nothing! Nothing I tell you! haha</description>
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		<title>By: Jess</title>
		<link>http://kitsunenoir.com/2007/12/03/treenorah/comment-page-1/#comment-18642</link>
		<dc:creator>Jess</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2007 19:51:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;small&gt;http://www.thisisby.us/index.php/content/christmas_wasn__t_always_like_this_it_used_to_be_much_worse&lt;/small&gt;

&quot;I know no one likes a history lesson, but my point here isnâ€™t that your Christmas shouldnâ€™t be about Christ. I donâ€™t care what you do on Christmas. But when you get on television and complain that your kids wanting a Nintendo Wii is a vast departure from the â€œrealâ€ meaning of Christmas, you are an asshole. Christmas has no meaning because it is culled from so many sources. It means the birth of someoneâ€™s savior, sure. But itâ€™s also a time for people to drink and be merry. And have sex. And worship the sun god. And feast on the harvest during a dark time.

Itâ€™s not yours to decide what to do with it. Nor was it ever religious enough to warrant the demand that it â€œgoes backâ€ to being about something it was never really about.

And one last thing.

X-Mas means the same thing as Christmas. Stop saying it &#039;takes Jesus out of Christmas.&#039; The X represents the first letter in the Greek word for &#039;Christmas.&#039; Okay? Heâ€™s still there.&quot;

not to be technical. :) just liked the article!</description>
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<p>&#8220;I know no one likes a history lesson, but my point here isnâ€™t that your Christmas shouldnâ€™t be about Christ. I donâ€™t care what you do on Christmas. But when you get on television and complain that your kids wanting a Nintendo Wii is a vast departure from the â€œrealâ€ meaning of Christmas, you are an asshole. Christmas has no meaning because it is culled from so many sources. It means the birth of someoneâ€™s savior, sure. But itâ€™s also a time for people to drink and be merry. And have sex. And worship the sun god. And feast on the harvest during a dark time.</p>
<p>Itâ€™s not yours to decide what to do with it. Nor was it ever religious enough to warrant the demand that it â€œgoes backâ€ to being about something it was never really about.</p>
<p>And one last thing.</p>
<p>X-Mas means the same thing as Christmas. Stop saying it &#8216;takes Jesus out of Christmas.&#8217; The X represents the first letter in the Greek word for &#8216;Christmas.&#8217; Okay? Heâ€™s still there.&#8221;</p>
<p>not to be technical. :) just liked the article!</p>
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